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Poster: stratocaster Date: Sep 12, 2008 5:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

10-29-1977

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-10-29.sbd.miller.92085.sbeok.flac16

Set 1

Might As Well Jack Straw Dire Wolf Looks Like Rain Loser
El Paso Ramble On Rose New Minglewood Blues It Must Have Been The Roses Let It Grow

Set 2

Bertha -> Good Lovin' Friend Of The Devil Estimated Prophet -> Eyes Of The World -> Space -> Saint Stephen ->
Drums -> Not Fade Away -> Black Peter -> Sugar Magnolia

Encore
One More Saturday Night


1977 is such a good year in part due to the consistency on the band. There's so many good shows, you'll pick a top ten list and feel bad for leaving out a handful of shows...anyhew, this is defintely a top 5 show of 1977...energy and kicking out the jams define the playing for the evening...Let It Grow, Bertha, Estimated, Eyes>Space, etc...



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Poster: caspersvapors Date: Sep 13, 2008 12:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

I love 10-29-77

its such a powerhouse show

I knew it was gonna be good as soon as the might as well finished. Its not often that a dime a dozen song opens as hot as that. the Black Peter kicks ass, as does the Eyes.

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Poster: billydlions Date: Sep 12, 2008 5:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

Grendel will be so glad to see your post after someone trashed this show earlier this week.

Five star show as the sound is great and setlist is very nice. Jerry switched back to Wolf in the fall of '77 which brought with it a little more distorted sound. I prefer this sound to the sometimes sterile sound in spring '77, although I'm certainly not putting down the playing. The jamming got a little more intense as well in the fall.

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Poster: Rings&Bells Date: Sep 12, 2008 8:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

I did not "trash" the show, and have since did as grendel suggested and gave it another listen. I never said it was a bad show, in fact it's quite good (especially on the second listen), however I don't believe it lives up to all the hype. It is definitely quality '77 with a great Eyes, Let it Grow, and to some extent Loser and Jack Straw. All I was saying was that, while it is good, it doesn't live up to all this "best ever" talk, imho.

This post was modified by Rings&Bells on 2008-09-13 03:12:36

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Sep 13, 2008 11:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

Doesn't anyone hear the recording difference between May and Oct 1977? The feed from the soundboard is different, and Keith's piano sounds all fucked up, like it's a kids thing. Way too much synth. That's my only problem with Oct 77, there is too much Keith and the organ/piano sounds wacky. Plus I think this is the time Jerry really starts to abuse the white powder. In may 77 maybe he is still experimenting with it...ha.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Sep 12, 2008 6:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

Grendel is indeed Mighty pleased.

Thanks to Stratocaster for "setting the record straight" ;-) regarding this amazing show.

As Jerry Might as well (and did) say, it's

"One big party from front to end."

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Poster: deadmax Date: Sep 12, 2008 6:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

This is a voted on top 10 that also includes the most downloaded shows from LMA and a list produced by FurtherNet. Of course some shows are missing from this bunch but it's subjective and just a place to start if you want a well-rounded list to start with.

77
1 02/26 Swing Auditorium, San Bernardino, Ca. 8
2 05/08 Barton Hall, Cornell , Ithaca, N.Y. 8
3 09/03 Raceway Park, Englishtown, N.J. 6
4 10/29 Evans Field House, Illinois U., DeKalb 6
5 05/07 Boston Garden, Boston, Ma. 5
6 05/09 War Memorial Auditorium, Buffalo, N.Y. 4
7 05/19 Fox Theatre, Atlanta, Ga. 4
8 06/09 Winterland Arena, San Francisco, Ca. 4
9 11/02 Field House, College, Toronto, Canada 4
10 12/30 Winterland Arena, San Francisco, Ca. 4

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Sep 12, 2008 6:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

This list exemplifies strat's point. A great list but no Mosque? I just don't think you can really come up with a true top 10 from '77. No measuring stick has the resolution needed to discriminate between so many great shows.


and yes GC will be happy because someone trashed his favorite show, however the show he said was most overrated came out number 1 on this list. I guess it begs the question, can a great show be great and overrated?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 12, 2008 7:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

To answer the question: yes. See Barton Hall.

But what would be the answer to the answer man?

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Sep 12, 2008 7:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

It can, and I tried to amend my comments b/c like any "best of" list, everyone's interpretation of "overrated" is similarly subjective.

I'd put 2/26/77 ahead of a gazillion shows in almost any other year --it's a great show-but it gets my vote for "overrated" precisely because it shows up #1 on a best of 77 list. No way in heck do i think that show ranks anywhere in the top 10 of 77 and so I call it overrated.

and yes, the Mosque belongs in top ten of 77 fer sure in my book.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Sep 12, 2008 7:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

So i agree with everything you say. But as you say both overrated and what one thinks is great can be extremely subjective. Moreover if shows are great does it matter whether they "overrated?" Would you not listen to or recommend others to not to listen to the Swing because lots of people think its the best of a year? It kind of makes this exercise a bit fruitless imo.

Well since we are on the Swing did you go back and listen to the Eyes>Dancing?

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Sep 13, 2008 9:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

Oh, I didn't even have to. I very much agree the EYES from that show has a wonderful quality and as you point out a sweet bass run by Phil leading into Dancin'.

One problem i guess i have w/that show--again, the subjective issue you brought up--is that I never cared for the Dead's version of Dancin'...no matter what the show or year...so that sequence doesn't thrill me as much as it might some others.

and no way would I ever NOT recommend the Swing show...just,as R&B points out about my fave of 10/29, it just doesn't cut it for me as one of the very best of that year, and so...overrated. But ultimately this proves your point about the overrated discussion itself being problematic and confusing. Better to simply point to what we each feel are truly GREAT shows in any given year.

(did I mention I really enjoy the mellow groove of the H>S>F from 2/26/77? :-)

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Sep 13, 2008 11:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

A G R E E D. Mosque is top 3 or 4 for this year, not only top 10.

2/26 is my favorite lordy lord. I was stranded on a desert island with only this show, I would be absolutely miserable except when I am listening to Swing!

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Poster: Bear in 29206 Date: Sep 12, 2008 7:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

OK, Where do I vote?

11/4/77 HAS to have something on the top 77-10!

Bear

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Poster: deadmax Date: Sep 12, 2008 9:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

Unfortunately the polls for 77 have closed and the list posted earlier, I'm afraid, is final.

Those 10 are in fact the ONLY top 10 for that year.

Now, how 'bout top ten 78 for Michael Jackson?

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Sep 13, 2008 11:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

This is reasonable. I would put Mosque top 5, and the Buffalo show is overrated for top 5, I would bump that down to #8 or 9. There are some earlier ones like Springfield 4-23 that deserves top mention.

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Poster: northstar dead Date: Sep 12, 2008 5:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

YOUUU Might as well might as well..might as well might as well might is well might is well

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Poster: WHARFRAT Date: Sep 12, 2008 5:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

Mighty Swell, Mighty Swell, Mighty Swell..........
MIGHTY SWELL.......

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Poster: northstar dead Date: Sep 12, 2008 6:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 10-29-1977 Evan's Fieldhouse Dekalb, Illinois...might as well

Yes